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Broadband Issues in Milton Keynes?
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Update - meeting to be arranged with Tessa Jowell MP
Mack Lancaster has been asking Tessa Jowell questions. Read
more here.
Broadband Action Group meet Mark Lancaster
MP.
Here's a report of our group's meeting with Mark Lancaster MP, Friday 10th
Feb, 2006.
Attendees:
Rafael Hidalgo, Walnut Tree
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Rafael recently moved house within Walnut Tree. He could get broadband at his old house: now he can't.
His wife works as a translator and needs fast frequent access to the World Wide Web. Also, they educate their children at home and need to download large files.
He is our exemplar resident that cannot get broadband. |
David Hoskins, Middleton
| David proactively
organised and hosted the meeting. He works for an American semiconductor
manufacturer. Large inventory databases are transferred between his
company and his customers' manufacturing plants, all squeezed down
Dave's little old 1Mbps connection.
His
European colleagues have 20Mbps connectivity.
He is our exemplar resident that can get broadband, but
speed is inadequate. |
Nick Hubbard, Monkston, broadband action group coordinator
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sorry saga is reported elsewhere. I chose
not to move house to get broadband. Others have done so.
As a software developer, I realise that my 2Mbps
connection really isn't adequate. |
Mark Lancaster MP
Richard Gates
Meeting Presentations
Rafael:
No Broadband! Even though
Rafael took great care when moving house within Walnut Tree.
Everything seemed fine for broadband at the new house, especially as
they would be using the same phone number. He felt the information BT gave
was misleading. BT were un-caring, just sending him an SMS
message saying no. Broadband is not an option but a necessity. Consider
broadband as a part of our infrastructure. |
David:
| 1 Mbps is not fast enough.
NTL could be an alternative provider to
BT Wholesale. Broadband would be delivered over cable, as is done in many other towns and
cities.
There is also the issue with Analogue TV switch off in
2102. Work to remediate the old 1980's cable system could also involve a
fix for broadband.
There's also the weary excuse NTL have used: "the council won't let us dig up
the roads." |
Nick:
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history of the MK Broadband Action Group. The current demand is: 400 members
have 512kbps but want faster. 20 members have no broadband.
I urged that pressure is applied with OFCOM. Persuade
them to extend
their "Universal Service Obligation" to include broadband.
BT have said that if the conditions of the "Universal Service
Obligation" were changed to include broadband they would have no choice but to
comply. At the moment BT need only say "sorry" if you want faster than 28.8kbps.
BT's line checker is still inaccurate. One neighbour
can get broadband at 2Mbps, another neighbour can only get 512kbps.
ISP's and there customers believe what they read from the line checker
web pages. People do believe that a reputable company like BT should get these things right.
Milton Keynes Council are
announcing plans for a collaboration with Pipex using
Wimax. While this is to be applauded, we
should still explore other avenues.
Will the WiMax coverage be adequate?
5Mbps
over 1 mile sounds good now, but will it be in 5 year's time?
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Conclusion
Mark will liaise with Dr Phyllis Starkey, Labour, and Milton Keynes Council,
Lib Dem, on this apolitical issue that covers all of Milton Keynes.
Our
broadband issues are MK-wide and are essentially non-political, so
making all parties aware of our views is completely appropriate.
Mark will make himself known to, and raise our concerns with, the following:
- NTL
- BT
- English
Partnerships
- OFCOM
Copies of the OFCOM Universal Service Obligation, broadband coverage maps and
emails from the group members were handed to Mark.
Here's Dave's email to Dr Phyllis Starkey sent after our meeting:
14/2/06
Dear Dr. Starkey,
I am a constituent of MK NE and have spoken to Mark Lancaster on this
subject but it equally affects your constituents which I would
appreciate your thoughts on.
We are on the edge of a big problem for Milton Keynes regarding
broadband. As you may know we have had many problems in Milton Keynes
with no broadband, or only 512K/1M ADSL with no prospect of higher data
rates. The BB4MK pressure group have made some progress with BT to get
ADSL improvements in the city.
One of the problems that Milton Keynes has is that our only form of
broadband is ADSL and there is no prospect of us getting any other
commercial and technological competitor to ADSL which is uniquely
supplied at source by BT Wholesale. The city is now at the verge of
expanding. We have an antiquated local loop system barely capable of
supporting the city as is. (Local loop is the last mile or so of copper
cable to the home).
I have contacted NTL and they have no plans to provide digital cable
services as they have no money. This is now leading to a three fold
problem.
1) There is no competition for BT Wholesale to improve. BT Wholesale
changed their policy on ADSL limits and extended their range because
they were being nice to BB4MK. (It was at no or little cost to BT).
2) The telecoms regulator is not forcing BT to provide data services
at a reasonable standard. (Technology has outpaced legislation).
3) Analogue TV will soon be switched off. MK is in a fringe area
hence us having cable TV in the first place. There are no plans to
re-cable for digital which is just storing trouble for the future. This
affects TV, and broadband equally.
This will lead to a difficult problem for both MPs in Milton Keynes.
I have approached Mark Lancaster on behalf of the BB4MK group who seems
very open and willing to do something to help the city. I would
respectfully encourage you to meet with Mr Lancaster as this is a highly
political and yet non-partisan issue and see what could be done for MK.
We need some thinking out of the box. We need investment like a PPP or
something like that to get better telecommunications for our modern
city. (Our problems are seemingly unique for a big city). Mark Lancaster
or yourself speaking alone will have less impact that if you could get
together (shoulder to shoulder so to speak) and discuss how you could
approach this problem.
Previously I have had many discussions with Brian White who was
helpful and insightful. I am genuinely worried for the people of Milton
Keynes who deserve a top quality infrastructure otherwise our success
and expansion will be stymied.
As a long serving MP for Milton Keynes and Labour MP, you are well
positioned to add the weight needed to help the city on this vital
issue. The BB4MK group would appreciate your support and I look forward
to hearing your views on this subject.
Yours sincerely,
David Hoskins (MK NE constituent and proud MK resident)! |
Our MP for MK North East
January 2006
Mark Lancaster, our Member of
Parliament for North East Milton Keynes, writes:
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It has been brought to my attention that as your newly elected
Conservative MP, you'd appreciate some support for your campaign to
deliver broadband and digital cable provision across Milton Keynes. I
believe you have a mailing list and I'd be grateful if you could forward
this e-mail to your subscribers.
I confess this is not my area of expertise, but in response to Mr.
Hoskins' e-mail, I would be delighted to ask the appropriate questions
in order to help search for a solution to the issues surrounding the
replacement of analogue cable in Milton Keynes.
Providing digital cable television brings a range of new services to
MK, including the possibility of broadband over cable. Increased
competition in broadband provision should further improve standards by
encouraging BT to invest more time and money into Milton Keynes.
Therefore, as I see it, a digital cable network will not only allow
consumers greater choice in their choice of television provider, but a
choice in their broadband provider too.
While it's entirely obvious that digital cable provision is essential
to the growth of Milton Keynes, the only road block is of course, money.
Who's going to pay for this given the network is now in the hands of
NTL, and Mr. Hoskins quite rightly points out, NTL are broke.
I am obviously perfectly happy to ask as many questions as required,
but could I ask everyone interested for their views on the correct way
forward?
Should this be handled by the Council with some kind of government
aid?
Or perhaps the relationship should be between NTL and the government?
Given that 90% of households in Milton Keynes make use of the old
analogue cable network, should the proposed solution include an element
of funding from local taxpayers?
Do you have any contacts at NTL who could tell us if they are
interested in improving the network, and if so, do they already have
plans and a timeline?
There is a further issue that I should mention and that's the
expansion of Milton Keynes. Should we be ensuring the Council are
forcing all developers to ensure new housing is equipped with the
infrastructure required to make use of the most up to date digital
networks?
With over 70,000 houses planned for Milton Keynes, the provision of
digital cable for everyone should form part of the debate on expansion.
I await your views with interest.
Many thanks,
Mark
PS If anybody is interested in what I've been up to down here on behalf
of MK, please have a look at
www.theyworkforyou.com and type in either my name or your postcode.
Mark Lancaster TD MP
Member for North East Milton Keynes
HOUSE OF COMMONS
LONDON SW1A 0AA
tel: 0207 219 8414
fax: 0207 219 6685 |
Instigator
Thanks Dave for instigating this. Here's his email to Mark
Lancaster:
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Dear Mr Lancaster,
I am writing to you out of concern for the lack of progress of
digital cable TV/broadband in Milton Keynes. As you may know there was
formed a broadband support group in MK to try to motivate BT to get off
its behind and get broadband to all who needs it in our modern city.
We still have black spots and folk limited to 512K or 1M when a lot
of people need higher rates. One of the problems is that the only
affordable broadband option is ADSL. The historical expansion of MK has
made this bitty due to long lengths and not capable of providing the
kind of modern service that we need. NTL cannot digitize the archaic
analogue network due to the cost of doing it (they are broke). The whole
system needs to be replaced as even the cable can't handle the data
signals. Very soon analogue will get switched off and soon we will be
left with one option for broadband in MK which is ADSL for the lucky who
can get it.
Could it not be possible for us to get some government funds/PPP to
help subsidize the re-cabling of the city? The analogue system is a hang
over from our early days and our circumstances are different to all
other towns. If the Conservatives become the next government, I would
expect this will become an embarrassing failure for all and will be a
thorn in your side in particular. Have you any thoughts on this at all?
The analogue switch off is staring us all in the face and something
needs to be done which is creative and is not taking no for an answer.
Regards,
Dave Hoskins |
Please let your MP know our concerns!
Dear All,
I have written to our MP for MK North East to see if we can get some
funding to get MK re-cabled for digital. Our circumstances in MK are
somewhat unique with perhaps the exception of Westminster Council. Just
go to the following link and click on L for Lancaster (MK NE) or S for
Starkey (MK SW) and why not pile the pressure on. It takes just a few
minutes and what the hell, this is what they are paid for:
http://www.parliament.uk/directories/hciolists/alcm.cfm
Please see my missive...
Regards,
Dave Hoskins |
If you decide to write/email Mark
Lancaster, MP for MK NE, you may also want to copy in
Phyllis Starkey, MP
for MK SW. Our broadband issues are MK-wide and are essentially non-political,
so making both of our MPs aware of our views seems completely appropriate (and
may even have double the effect.)
My concerns...
In order of importance:
- MK residents with no broadband
- MK residents with unreliable broadband
- MK residents having to put up with 512kpbs broadband - they want
faster!
- Analogue TV switch off in 2012 - will we still be stuck with a handful
of channels in MK?
Email me with your
concerns. (Please keep it broadband / TV cabling related!)
Dave and I will be meeting Mark on the 10th February 2006.
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