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Wednesday 4th February 2004 

Oakgrove Collaboration Design Workshop

English Partnership's Oakgrove Collaboration Design Workshop was held earlier this week.

A new estate is being planned for Milton Keynes. I attended the workshop. My reason for going? Why to report back to my happy readers how dire the IT infrastructure was going to be, that planners haven't a clue what Broadband was, and aren't developers a total waste of time!

Wrong on all counts...

The quality of the Oakgrove workshop was excellent, open and up front. The participants were planners, academics, environmentalists, prospective developers, council staff, EP staff, MK councillors, parish councillors, and a handful of MK residents.

Broadband

Nigel Bruin gave a presentation that addressed the Broadband issues. "Oakgrove will utilise the latest advancements in ICT."

"Future proof" was an expression he used a lot.

In brief I'd suggest that if you want proper Broadband in the UK you should sign up and move to Oakgrove! (I plan to put his notes / slides up on this page - so watch this space.)

Public Exhibition This Friday Evening

I'll leave the publicity to Jenni and John, two Broadband members that have helped with our campaign:

If you're interested in the Oakgrove grid square development ideas, do come along to the design exhibition on Friday 6th Feb, 6pm to 9pm at the National Hockey Stadium near the Station. The points were very forcibly made that the rest of Middleton Ward wants fast broadband (or any broadband) too, and that the infrastructure needs to be accessible for changing later, and there needs to be a funding mechanism for this. There probably won't be any answers yet - because they genuinely haven't got that far, but the questions have been formally raised and are seen as important opportunities for getting more benefit to MK out of the project.

A lot of rumours have been circulating round the area about what EP has in mind for Oakgrove. Some of them were scotched completely during the design workshops, and others were presented, but only as a first idea for discussion.

Virtually everything is still up for discussion, and the discussion is proving very lively indeed. Whatever ideas EP started the week with will certainly have changed by the end of the week, so the exhibition will have plenty of new material to display! Do come. This will drive the ideas for many other new estates in MK and EP (and the Liberal Democrats and the Council) genuinely want your comments.

Jenni Ferrans
Middleton Ward Liberal Democrat Focus Team

 
Oakgrove has been chosen to become one of the Government’s seven “Millennium Communities,” with potentially major impact on its future residents and on everyone living nearby – especially people in Middleton and Monkston.

The plans involve building more new homes than Monkston on an area half the size, with community design guidelines unlike anything MK has ever seen.

I believe we should all be working hard to influence the designs and, having spent 2 days this week in the Collaborative Design Workshop, I urge everyone to visit the exhibition of design ideas this Friday 6-9pm at the Hockey Stadium.

Residents will be pleased to know that there is already a community group and website committed to exert positive influence on the designers, and I’ll be pleased to have any feedback sent to me personally.

John Bint
Conservative Spokesperson, Middleton Ward

I am helping set up a website that will air questions MK residents are bound to have with Oakgrove. I will not be diluting effort with the MK Broadband Action Group. This web site will remain 100% focused on the Broadband issue in MK.

Ofcom

I have received the following email from Ofcom:

04 Feb 2004

Dear Mr Hubbard

Thank you for your taking the time to contact Ofcom about a subject that I understand is important to you and the other residents of Milton Keynes.

The roll-out of ADSL was a commercial decision taken by BT and was not mandated by Ofcom. Ofcom’s role has been to ensure that BT complies with its legal and regulatory obligations. For example, BT must offer its wholesale products to all service providers/operators on the same terms & conditions and must not unduly prefer its own service provider business.

Ofcom is keen to ensure that everyone who wants broadband service is able to obtain it be encouraging BT to roll-out ADSL to more exchanges and develop alternative methods of providing broadband services e.g. via satellite. However upgrading the network and exchanges takes considerable investment and time so universal service is not possible overnight.

By BT installing fibre optic cable in your area it means that you will not currently be able to have their ADSL service. This potentially stops BT from being able to offer their customers a service that could make them. As BT is money making company I am sure that they would have used Copper lines in your area if it had been commercial viable for them to do so at the time. Ofcom regulations do not stretch to the extent that all new installation lines must be Copper.

There are other ways of receiving a broadband service. Broadband satellite services are available throughout the UK, though are currently more expensive than ADSL or cable. Broadband fixed wireless networks have also been rolled out in some areas of the country. Details of the availability of these services and the companies offering them are available from: http://www.ispreview.co.uk/broadband.shtml.

Yours sincerely

Alastair Hogg

Ofcom Contact Centre

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My Inbox

Just thought I would drop you a line to say well done for pushing for broadband in MK and also to let you know about my company as we may be able to help some people with advice. Macannex Ltd are specialist Apple service providers in Mk and we also offer broadband services 512-2000k ADSL and SDSL where available.

My reasons are obviously a bit commercial, but I would go further than that in that I get so cross with the large broadband companies dumping on the Mac users. I hear time after time from people who have been told they cant have broadband with their Mac when what the supplier should have said is we cant support Macs because we don¹t know what we are talking about. We therefore are very open to giving free advice to anyone who asks and trying to tell them what they can do.

When we first moved into our Crownhill office we were unable to get broadband from BT due to line distance and quality and struggled for 9 months with dialup, then tried Silvermead satellite. Finally I noticed a BT guy over the road doing work and quizzed him about the possibilities to find that they had replaced a joint to Crownhill. I reapplied for ADSL and BINGO it worked. No one would ever have told me this!!

Also check out our forum at www.macannex.co.uk I am developing the broadband section there.

Look forward to hearing from you

Andy Woollard
Macannex Ltd

PS. We do talk to PC people too..... Internet is basically the same for everyone... OR IT SHOULD BE!!!!!

 
On the 19th December you reported that "BT seem to be doing something for Middleton."

There is something happening... I think we have an issue that my BT account manager will not discuss.

You have a meeting with BT on the 20th February. Raise the issue at that meeting.

Mr Mole

[Thanks for pushing. Seems your BT account manager has tried - that's appreciated. Serena is under a lot of pressure to spill beans. I'll report back on our meeting of the 20th.]

 
I have been trying to get BT Business broadband at home (Clare Croft,  Middleton) for the last couple of weeks and came across your website.

The engineer that came round got a reading of 60.7dB (0.7dB over the limit) at about 3.5km from the exchange (my estimate). He told me that the wrong resistance of cable was used underground when the estate infrastructure was built in the early 80's (sounds like Bull**** to me).

I am now trying to get BT to run a new cable of the correct resistance, but am not having much luck. Any contacts or help in this would
be appreciated - I know this is being done in Monkston. I would be very happy to get involved in any meetings with BT if you need any assistance.

As my broadband connection is being funded by work I will also try and apply some corporate pressure through our account manager.

Simon
IBM

[Any pressure you can apply on BT would be very welcome. There is progress. BT have the cabling in. I'm expecting an announcement on the 20th when we meet with BT.
Try Serena.]

 

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