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Wednesday 28th January 2004 

New cabinet in Great Linford

Peter writes: "I believe we have had a new street cabinet installed at the junction of Marsh Drive and St Leger Drive, just a few yards from the original. Is BT re-cabling up here? Is it indeed a street cabinet?"

I've taken a look. The cabinet looks promising.

This may be part of BT's programme to provide Broadband. We will know more by the 20th of this month when we meet with BT.

My Inbox

I am sure that like others I find the patronising platitudes from BT rather frustrating and annoying.

The explanations about non-availability of broadband are far too glib.
I do not think that cable to my house is more than 6kms long. If another BT person tells me that it "cannot be measured as the crow flies" I shall scream at them! If my line gives a reading of above 60dB, does it mean that the cables in MK are noisier or lower quality than older cables in use elsewhere?

The situation with fibre optic cables in some areas of MK is understandable and the remedy has to be new cables. But what if we are already on copper and within 6kms? I would have expected the long runs of new cables installed along the grid roads to perform better than elsewhere.

BT's answer that they are "continuing to look for alternative technology solutions" [a phrase from the BT broadband checker] seems a pious hope and just a simple way to fend off complaints.

Whilst BT press releases declare that "100 per cent broadband coverage of every UK community is achievable by 2005", it seems likely that without a commitment to install better quality, or more direct, cabling that much of MK will still be without broadband for the foreseeable future.

Since they are now a 'private company' BT are naturally reticent to commit to the capital investment of new cables and we are left to suffer yet another result of the folly of 'privatising' such essential utilities.

Keep up the good work,
regards,
Roy

 
I don't see why I should have to pay more than double for less than have the benefits. To get on Home Highway it is £31 pcm (BT Together option 2) or wait for it £46pcm (BT Option 3 - all phone calls included, not internet) PLUS £10 for the Midband service which gives you only 75 hours connect time @ 128k connection or a whopping(!) 150 hours @ 64k connection. No wonder they are not pushing to get BB more widespread.

Here's my correspondence with BT over that last few weeks:

Serena,
Unfortunately, to get ISDN there are no spare lines on my 'cluster of 3'.
This means that either I will have to change my number or get a completely separate line (sorry 2 lines) at a cost of £149 to install. This really is unacceptable to have to pay more for a less capable solution.

Unless you know otherwise?

Regards,
Francis.

-----Original Message-----
From: serena.shukla@bt.com [mailto:serena.shukla@bt.com]
Sent: 28 January 2004 13:38
To: francis
Subject: RE: MK BB Francis


Francis

Unfortunately I am have limited expertise in this area - I do know that most service provisions come with terms and conditions and also have a minimum contract period but I am not sure how this is negotiated or withdrawn if you later choose to upgrade your line as a result of technology advances. You can find more about ISDN here : http://www.bt.com/homehighway/index.htm

Hope this helps.

Regards
Serena

-----Original Message-----
From: Francis
Sent: 27 January 2004 01:18
To: Shukla,S,Serena,M3C41 R
Subject: RE: MK BB Francis


Thanks for the personal update. I will have to go the isdn route then. If I do, will I be able to ditch it when broadband becomes available? Francis.

-----Original Message-----
From: serena.shukla@bt.com [mailto:serena.shukla@bt.com]
Sent: 26 January 2004 15:54
To: francis
Subject: RE: MK BB Francis

Francis

Unfortunately your line has come back as showing as red which means that you are over the current acceptable limits for broadband availability.

BT is putting specific resource into addressing the issues here in Milton Keynes. We recognise that there are some areas like Milton Keynes, where because of the history of the land development and the geography of our network configuration, the number of customers within broadband reach is lower than the national average. The national average is now approx. 96%.

We are analysing the nature of the broadband availability gaps in Milton Keynes and working on developing solutions. It is not yet possible to talk about specific time lines, but currently our efforts in Milton Keynes are leading and informing the approach to broadband gaps in other parts of the country.

It is very difficult to say how soon a solution might be implemented, as we have to fully establish the scale and causes of the issues. Nationally BT has a range of programmes in place to assess and mitigate the issues in such areas but we need to proceed in an orderly fashion, i.e. beginning with evaluation of technology or possible systems changes, then moving to trial of potential services/products. Nationally we hope to be in a position to articulate proposals on reach in the summer of 2004.

I know you will find the news disappointing. If you have any further questions, please do get in touch.

Regards
Serena

-----Original Message-----
From: Francis
Sent: 21 January 2004 22:37
To: Shukla,S,Serena,M3C41 R
Subject: RE: MK BB Francis


Serena,
Every time I try the checkers on the web, I live too far from the exchange.
It is ridiculous. We're in the newest town in the UK. Even my in-laws who live in Kidlington near Oxford can get bb (and digital satellite TV, but that is another sore point!!) Still I look forward to your reply. Will you be able to find out exactly how far I am from the exchange? Thanks, Francis.

-----Original Message-----
From: serena.shukla@bt.com [mailto:serena.shukla@bt.com]
Sent: 21 January 2004 12:07
To: francis
Subject: RE: MK BB Francis

Francis

You are still being served from the Bradwell Abbey exchange. Of all the customers I have on my records, those who live in Great Linford are all served from the Bradwell Abbey exchange as well.

I will send your number for an initial line investigation to confirm the status of your line as indicated by the checker. Hopefully I will be in touch early next week with the results.

Regards
Serena

Serena Shukla
MK Broadband Helpline - 01908 293036
BT Retail Customer Satisfaction


-----Original Message-----
From: Francis
Sent: 20 January 2004 22:03
To: Shukla,S,Serena,M3C41 R
Subject: MK BB 206 - Francis

Isn't Great Linford also served by the Newport Pagnell exchange? We moved here from Bradwell Common and brought our number with us.

This is very frustrating as it is not just for personal use but now a business requirement to do software demonstrations from home. Regards, Francis.

-----Original Message-----
From: serena.shukla@bt.com [mailto:serena.shukla@bt.com]
Sent: 20 January 2004 15:03
To: francis
Subject: RE: Broadband for Great Linford

Francis

Thank you for your mail.

Great Linford is one area in Milton Keynes were broadband availability is limited. Unfortunately it is not possible to request a new line from a different exchange. The only way this can happen is if you move into an area served by the exchange you seek to be served by.

All I can do at this stage is confirm the status of your line as indicated by the broadband checker. To do this I will need your full address and the phone number you wish to have broadband on.

Regards
Serena

Serena Shukla
MK Broadband Helpline - 01908 293036
BT Retail Customer Satisfaction


-----Original Message-----
From: Francis
Sent: 18 January 2004 18:56
To: Shukla,S,Serena,M3C41 R
Subject: Broadband for Great Linford
Importance: High


Serena,
I have a pressing business need for a broadband connection from my home in Great Linford as I have taken on a role that will require me to perform on-line software demonstrations (webinars). I have been following the broadband for Milton Keynes campaign very closely and am now on the point of giving up and trying to get ISDN, but I am not sure I will even be able to get that.

The nature of the webinar will be that I need that fastest possible internet connection, at the same time being able to use my house phone to talk the audience through the demonstration. This means that if I have an ISDN installation, I will need a double line installed, which will give me 128k connectivity independently of my home phone line. This will cost me more per month than a £27 monthly subscription for broadband. One of my colleagues uses ISDN for this purpose, but he says the line often locks up and he has to 'reset' everything in mid-demonstration, which is not very satisfactory.

However, before I order ISDN, I understand that the Newport Pagnell exchange is broadband enabled, but I am currently on the Bradwell Abbey exchange. If I order one extra line, can I specify that I wish to be connected to the NP exchange and get that tested for broadband. Is it possible that I would be able to get broadband from this exchange? If not then I would need to get ISDN installed as a minimum.

As I said this is now becoming an urgent requirement and I do not know what the best course of action would be. I would be grateful for your advice in this matter.

Best regards, Francis.

Francis

 
I read about your campaign in the Milton Keynes News pushed through the door by the local Conservative party.

I think it's great we have someone like yourself championing the right to broadband.

I enjoy downloading music mainly and it can take anything up to 1 hour for a 3 minute song - absolutely ridiculous!!

And on a day like today when I am forced to work from home because of the weather I have to limit my internet time in case customers are trying to fax or phone me.

Please register me as an interested party for broadband.

Good luck.

Ian, Stantonbury

 

Point #1 I've just used the BT online broadband checker and it seems too contradictory...

By the way, we don't have any knowledge of a line sharing device!!

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For Telephone Number 01908236xxx on Exchange BRADWELL ABBEY

Your exchange has ADSL broadband. However, the length of the telephone line between you and the exchange is too long for ADSL broadband. However, we are continuing to look for alternative technology solutions and will keep you updated with developments as they happen.

Thank you for your interest.

Note: Our records indicate that a line-sharing device is connected to your line. This is the reason that the checker has returned this marginal result and may mean that Broadband could not be delivered on this line. Further investigations would be necessary as part of the ordering process to confirm whether or not you could receive Broadband service at this address. This could result in a delay to the provision of broadband at this address.

Next Step

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Point #2/ I believe we have had a new street cabinet installed at the junction of Marsh Drive and St Leger Drive, just a few yards from the original. Is BT re-cabling up here? Is it indeed a street cabinet? [Yes. I've taken a look. The cabinet looks promising!]

Regards

Peter.

 
I have Broadband!

Bulldog took me on from 24 Dec 03. My connection didn't go live (due to "BT work", no prize for guessing what!) until 5 Jan 04.

Best regards,

Martyn, Monkston
 

Last Friday I got connected to broadband via Freeserve and apart from a few receiving errors here and there when I check the connection status, the broadband seems reliable and unlike A.O.L does not keep disconnecting.

I am glad to say I am very happy with the service.

John, Ladymeadow Court, Middleton

 
I have just been on the Visioning Summit for Milton Keynes and the Next 30 Years. I mentioned to BT's head of Broadband monitoring about some of our challenges and, whilst I cannot say anything specific, I can say I don't think anyone at Oakgrove will be disappointed with their internet connection!

How are we getting on at Walton Park? Any joy on getting connected yet? [No news. We have 28 members in Walton Park.]

All the best

Stewart
 

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